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Dr.Jones · Oct 01, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

i also read on her talk page something about raseing the faction cap for kuzick and luxon.

lordheinous · Oct 01, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

I see only good things in reducing title grind. I personally have all 4 gwen and 2 nf grind titles maxed on my main, and yet I would love to see the amount of grind needed to max them reduced. First off, I'm not an ass who just wants others to work hard because I had to, but more importantly, I am always filled with despair when I want to try a build with a secondary character that would use a high level of a pve skill, as I don't feel like doing hours and hours of grind on all of my characters. Also, if kurzick/luxon were improved, it would be great as well; as it can be argued that the current best way to max them isn't actually playing guildwars but rather playing plant the flag on the minimap, which I for one have no desire to play

Tramp · Oct 01, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Making titles easier to get would be stupid. Why dont they just make everyone GWAMM and make the titles pointless. My guess is most people are just playing the game now for titles and once they are maxed they tend to quit. So making the titles easy to get will hasten the already dwindling number of players. Some titles should be revamped to account based in my opinion (wisdom, treasure, survivor). And the faction titles are stupidly high grinds in my opinion. But the rep point titles and all other PVE titles are already easy to get. Making them easier will be another step backwards.

Mordiego · Oct 01, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

bb PvE? the grind was kinda fun... but hey... what can we do?
I just hope wisdom and t-hunter get account based. No other major changes

Konig Des Todes · Oct 01, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

We have change the many titles to account base but we also increase there ranks, you now need 20k to max Wisdom.........I wouldn't be shock if that happen, I don't want to see what they might F up.

I can see that happening with the Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, and Party Animal titles, but nothing else.

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Originally Posted by greyhawk

this would be a good idea, i hope they put all characters keys and golds together, but not gettign my hopes up.

these titles are not as much of a grind imo, they are paid for so i dont think they should be account wide.

As for GWEN titles they are bloodly easy to max, if they get lowered it would be stupid imo. dwarven you dont have to do anythign but play the game and all the other max very very easy by playing Hm Gwen.

i am really looking forwards to this nov update, it will sure push me to finish up my war a lot faster then i am :P

Drunkard is a huge grind. Sweet Tooth, not so much because you can just click them all at once. Party Animal, same for Sweet Tooth unless you get that title via Tonics. Non-the-less, they are disliked because of the reason why you say they should not be account based. Funny, huh?

As for the GW:EN titles, if you are working to LMotN, all but 2 can easily be maxed from vanquishing, missions, dungeons, and books. But then you gotta grind to finish it off. Get LMotN, Delver is done automatically if you take the bounty every time, and everything else is at least r8, books can fill up 1-2 more, which will leave 2-1 more titles, but not much left of them.

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Originally Posted by SlipknotOFA

Blah that sucks ... I like working for a title dont want anyone to give it to me everyone in this game wants a handout .... Everyone wants this nerf cause its causing problems with this or that sucks....

Oh look, the first QQ is here already. Damn, that was fast.

No one wants handouts, they just want to time eating titles to be easier (not easy, just easier) and shorter (not short, just shorter). Kurzick/Luxon and Wisdom/Treasure Hunter are the biggest 4 titles in need of a redo. The rest can do without, but would be nice. If you like working for you titles, grind you mind to mush before November.

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Originally Posted by SlipknotOFA

Making something easier for you to get it its basically the samething w/e n/m.

No, it is not the same, you still have to work for them.

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Originally Posted by Tramp

Making titles easier to get would be stupid. Why dont they just make everyone GWAMM and make the titles pointless. My guess is most people are just playing the game now for titles and once they are maxed they tend to quit. So making the titles easy to get will hasten the already dwindling number of players. Some titles should be revamped to account based in my opinion (wisdom, treasure, survivor). And the faction titles are stupidly high grinds in my opinion. But the rep point titles and all other PVE titles are already easy to get. Making them easier will be another step backwards.

Titles are not the only reason why people play. People do have brains and will know that just maxing out titles does nothing to benefit them. It's even been stated that the rewards in GW2 will be next to worthless. Also, survivor account based? WTF?!? That's an achievement title, not a grind (they do need to make Fronis and HFFF anti-survivor though). And "all other," which are not grinding titles, will not get touched, as there won't be a way to make those easier because it is doing different things, not the same things over and over.

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Originally Posted by Mordiego

bb PvE? the grind was kinda fun... but hey... what can we do?

Only to you and a handful of other people. Most people do not like grind.

wilebill · Oct 01, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Less Grind Wars and more Guild Wars. Sounds good to me!

Joseph Rejekt · Oct 01, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

So you're getting the popcorn? Then I will get some cheese for the whine.

Sweet, I'll bring the Mountain Dew and the Cheetos as well!

Nessar · Oct 01, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Hmmm I seriously can't wait. Hopefully it's what I'm thinking about. But, I'm not going to assume anything quite yet

Hopes: Party/drunk/sweet/treasure/wisdom account wide. MAYBE the eotn titles account wide too, or some way to reduce the grind. Reduce the kurz/lux titles grind...

Exceptations: ...Nothing too life changing >>

Nightow · Oct 01, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

i also read on her talk page something about raseing the faction cap for kuzick and luxon.

Raising?!

For god's sake, NO!

Better/different ways to get faction, good idea!
Raising the cap for max faction rank, bad idea!

Post a link to where she says this please!

Gift3d · Oct 01, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by illidan009

Good for me bad for pve elitists.

Took the words right off of my fingers. This should be great. I'm excited.

mrmango · Oct 01, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Raising?!

For god's sake, NO!

Better/different ways to get faction, good idea!
Raising the cap for max faction rank, bad idea!

Post a link to where she says this please!

I'm quite positive if she said that, she means raising the amount of faction you can carry before having to unload it because you have 10,000/10,000.
So probably scaling it like PVP titles increase max Balthazar faction held at one time.

SlipknotOFA · Oct 01, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

I can see that happening with the Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, and Party Animal titles, but nothing else.

Drunkard is a huge grind. Sweet Tooth, not so much because you can just click them all at once. Party Animal, same for Sweet Tooth unless you get that title via Tonics. Non-the-less, they are disliked because of the reason why you say they should not be account based. Funny, huh?

As for the GW:EN titles, if you are working to LMotN, all but 2 can easily be maxed from vanquishing, missions, dungeons, and books. But then you gotta grind to finish it off. Get LMotN, Delver is done automatically if you take the bounty every time, and everything else is at least r8, books can fill up 1-2 more, which will leave 2-1 more titles, but not much left of them.

Oh look, the first QQ is here already. Damn, that was fast.

No one wants handouts, they just want to time eating titles to be easier (not easy, just easier) and shorter (not short, just shorter). Kurzick/Luxon and Wisdom/Treasure Hunter are the biggest 4 titles in need of a redo. The rest can do without, but would be nice. If you like working for you titles, grind you mind to mush before November.

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No, it is not the same, you still have to work for them.

Titles are not the only reason why people play. People do have brains and will know that just maxing out titles does nothing to benefit them. It's even been stated that the rewards in GW2 will be next to worthless. Also, survivor account based? WTF?!? That's an achievement title, not a grind (they do need to make Fronis and HFFF anti-survivor though). And "all other," which are not grinding titles, will not get touched, as there won't be a way to make those easier because it is doing different things, not the same things over and over.

Only to you and a handful of other people. Most people do not like grind.

Yea w/e if you remember correctly they did a nerf on titles when they first came out with the luxon and the kurzick which I seriously doubt they would it again !! :P And if you think they are going to make the treasure hunter easier you ve been doing to much drugs to begin with ... Only benefits I see that would be good would be gamer luck unlucky and drunkard and sweets ... and leaving the rest where they are

siadina · Oct 01, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

For a long time i have been avoiding winsom/tresure because i feel that if i haven't earned that title in three years i wasn't going to bother with it lol. Also hoping for a lower faction Kurx/Lux as well. For those of us who can only play in the afternoons that would be a great boon to me at least.
Ohh and if they are listening to my intermost thought they would make the weekend bonuses last all week *grin* but i won't be holding my breath lol

Taurucis · Oct 01, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

I will not get my hopes up.
I will not get my hopes up.
I will not get my hopes up.
I will not get my hopes up.

I'd rather be pleasantly (... or unpleasantly...) surprised when the update rolls around, instead of getting totally disappointed when my speculations turn out to be wrong.

Dr.Jones · Oct 01, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by mrmango

I'm quite positive if she said that, she means raising the amount of faction you can carry before having to unload it because you have 10,000/10,000.
So probably scaling it like PVP titles increase max Balthazar faction held at one time.

this is what i was talking about. if i meant the title i would have said title cap Learn to read.

recon54 · Oct 01, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by mrmango

I'm quite positive if she said that, she means raising the amount of faction you can carry before having to unload it because you have 10,000/10,000.
So probably scaling it like PVP titles increase max Balthazar faction held at one time.

Thats what i think she was talking bout, probably every rank u have of Luxon or Kurzick allows u to have an additional 1000 of that faction. So at r0 Luxon you can have a maximum of 10,000 L faction, and at r5 L u can have a max of 15,000 L faction. Or at least something along those lines (numbers may vary). I also think Linsey said something about adjusting the rewards for The Deep and Urgoz, so chances are they will give faction rewards, and hopefully they will adjust the rewards for AB/JQ/FA and the other challange missions to give better rewards that HFFF and to help speed up the process of gaining faction.

Meanwhile, like many have alrdy said, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter should be account based (should have been from the start). Also think Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, and Party animal should be account based, despite them being for fun and money based titles.

A minor change i wouldnt mind seeing happening to Sweet Tooth and Party Animal would be to perhaps add timer points to them. For example say u are using a Tonic, ull earn 2 points just for using the tonic, however, ull also earn another pt for every 5 minutes you decide to stay in that form. Same concept for using a sugary treat.

Now in terms of Rep titles, only thing is really needed to help decrease their grind would be to increase the bounty, best if they were to be set to what they were this last weekend in GWEN. Should also add a similary bounty system as GWENs in NF (no more certain monster bounties) and in Factions by giving a bonus reward every 25 kills.

Winterclaw · Oct 01, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I was just thinking, wasn't anet supposed to be doing a little bit better job communicating what they are planning to change in the game? Now would probably be a good time to give us a better idea of what changes are going to be in the update before they lock them down.

Crawford Team Captain · Oct 01, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

she mentioned faction gain rate. does she mean gaining balth faction wil be easier? aka cheaper prices on zkeys.

A11Eur0 · Oct 01, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Hopefully both increased balth faction gain rates, higher zaishen elite farm cap per day, and a lower max for the Zaishen title. 100 million gold to max it ftl? tournament tokens should also be able to be traded 5:1 for keys as was mentioned in earlier threads because before zkeys, that was the only way to spend faction after unlocking everything and people have stacks of the things sitting around on their PvP chars.

romeus petrus · Oct 01, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

And what made Anet finally realize that turning PvE into a brainless Title whoring fest is a bad idea? /endsarcasm

I've seen so many idiotic decisions by anet lately that I agree, we shouldn't get our hopes up.